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		<title>By: Blog de Astronomia do astroPT &#187; Vários Planetas</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/05/16/scooped/comment-page-1/#comment-33220</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog de Astronomia do astroPT &#187; Vários Planetas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] artigo no qual apontam para a possibilidade da estrela GJ 436, já conhecida pela importantíssima descoberta de um &#8220;Hot-Neptune&#8221; (GJ 436b) em sua órbita no ano passado, ter um outro planeta mais [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] artigo no qual apontam para a possibilidade da estrela GJ 436, já conhecida pela importantíssima descoberta de um &#8220;Hot-Neptune&#8221; (GJ 436b) em sua órbita no ano passado, ter um outro planeta mais [...]</p>
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		<title>By: systemic - one seven one five six redux</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/05/16/scooped/comment-page-1/#comment-4705</link>
		<dc:creator>systemic - one seven one five six redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The aggregate of data from the October 1 transit allowed us to refine the orbital properties of the planet, and additional confirming observations in a paper by Gillon (of &#8216;436 fame) et al have given a much better characterization of the orbit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The aggregate of data from the October 1 transit allowed us to refine the orbital properties of the planet, and additional confirming observations in a paper by Gillon (of &#8216;436 fame) et al have given a much better characterization of the orbit. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blog de Astronomia do astroPT &#187; PossÃ­vel &#8220;Super-Earth&#8221; em torno de GJ 436</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/05/16/scooped/comment-page-1/#comment-4360</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog de Astronomia do astroPT &#187; PossÃ­vel &#8220;Super-Earth&#8221; em torno de GJ 436</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Uma equipa de astrÃ³nomos espanhÃ³is e franceses divulgou hoje um artigo no qual apontam para a possibilidade da estrela GJ 436, jÃ¡ conhecida pela importantÃ­ssima descoberta de um &#8220;Hot-Neptune&#8221; (GJ 436b) em sua Ã³rbita no ano passado, ter um outro planeta mais distante com cerca de 5 vezes a massa da Terra. O planeta (GJ 436c) terÃ¡ a particularidade de estar numa ressonÃ¢ncia 2:1 com o &#8220;hot-Neptune&#8221;, mais interior. As interacÃ§Ãµes gravitacionais entre os planetas poderiam explicar a excentricidade anormal da Ã³rbita do Gliese 436b, o qual, na ausÃªncia de perturbaÃ§Ãµes, deveria ter uma Ã³rbita quase circular. Os astrÃ³nomos propÃµem a existÃªncia do novo planeta como forma de explicar um padrÃ£o observado na velocidade radial da estrela depois de subtraÃ­do o efeito provocado pelo GJ 436b. Esta previsÃ£o poderÃ¡ ser verificada atravÃ©s da observaÃ§Ã£o cuidadosa dos trÃ¢nsitos do GJ 436b, uma vez que o GJ 436c deverÃ¡ provocar alteraÃ§Ãµes mensurÃ¡veis na inclinaÃ§Ã£o da Ã³rbita do seu vizinho mais interior. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Uma equipa de astrÃ³nomos espanhÃ³is e franceses divulgou hoje um artigo no qual apontam para a possibilidade da estrela GJ 436, jÃ¡ conhecida pela importantÃ­ssima descoberta de um &#8220;Hot-Neptune&#8221; (GJ 436b) em sua Ã³rbita no ano passado, ter um outro planeta mais distante com cerca de 5 vezes a massa da Terra. O planeta (GJ 436c) terÃ¡ a particularidade de estar numa ressonÃ¢ncia 2:1 com o &#8220;hot-Neptune&#8221;, mais interior. As interacÃ§Ãµes gravitacionais entre os planetas poderiam explicar a excentricidade anormal da Ã³rbita do Gliese 436b, o qual, na ausÃªncia de perturbaÃ§Ãµes, deveria ter uma Ã³rbita quase circular. Os astrÃ³nomos propÃµem a existÃªncia do novo planeta como forma de explicar um padrÃ£o observado na velocidade radial da estrela depois de subtraÃ­do o efeito provocado pelo GJ 436b. Esta previsÃ£o poderÃ¡ ser verificada atravÃ©s da observaÃ§Ã£o cuidadosa dos trÃ¢nsitos do GJ 436b, uma vez que o GJ 436c deverÃ¡ provocar alteraÃ§Ãµes mensurÃ¡veis na inclinaÃ§Ã£o da Ã³rbita do seu vizinho mais interior. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: systemic - A hot hot Neptune</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/05/16/scooped/comment-page-1/#comment-2911</link>
		<dc:creator>systemic - A hot hot Neptune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Regular oklo readers will recall Gillon et al.&#8217;s discovery that the Neptune-mass planet orbiting the red dwarf star Gl 436 can be observed in transit. Transitsearch got scooped, and the whole eposide got me all worked up enough to neglect the exigencies of everyday academic life and reel off three straight posts on the detection and its consequences (see here, here, here, and also here). The transits of Gl 436 b are a big deal because they indicate that the planet is composed largely of water. It&#8217;s not a rock and it&#8217;s not a Jupiter-like gas giant. Rather, it&#8217;s a fully Neptune-like object, hauled in for inspection on a 2.64385 day orbit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Regular oklo readers will recall Gillon et al.&#8217;s discovery that the Neptune-mass planet orbiting the red dwarf star Gl 436 can be observed in transit. Transitsearch got scooped, and the whole eposide got me all worked up enough to neglect the exigencies of everyday academic life and reel off three straight posts on the detection and its consequences (see here, here, here, and also here). The transits of Gl 436 b are a big deal because they indicate that the planet is composed largely of water. It&#8217;s not a rock and it&#8217;s not a Jupiter-like gas giant. Rather, it&#8217;s a fully Neptune-like object, hauled in for inspection on a 2.64385 day orbit. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/05/16/scooped/comment-page-1/#comment-2464</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 16:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joao, Nikki,

Great news! I&#039;ll be writing a post later today with the latest on 436...


best,
greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joao, Nikki,</p>
<p>Great news! I&#8217;ll be writing a post later today with the latest on 436&#8230;</p>
<p>best,<br />
greg</p>
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		<title>By: NIKKI</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/05/16/scooped/comment-page-1/#comment-2463</link>
		<dc:creator>NIKKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 16:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg!
Yesterday three young amateur astronomers (Teja Fabjan,PrimoÅ¾ Kuk and Matej 
MihelÄiÄ),from Slovenia (EU) observed transit of TrES-3!
See:
http://www.astronom.si/forum/index.php?topic=2617.0
Further processing is on the way!
Nikolaj Å tritof
(NIKKI)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg!<br />
Yesterday three young amateur astronomers (Teja Fabjan,PrimoÅ¾ Kuk and Matej<br />
MihelÄiÄ),from Slovenia (EU) observed transit of TrES-3!<br />
See:<br />
<a href="http://www.astronom.si/forum/index.php?topic=2617.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.astronom.si/forum/index.php?topic=2617.0</a><br />
Further processing is on the way!<br />
Nikolaj Å tritof<br />
(NIKKI)</p>
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		<title>By: gregas</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/05/16/scooped/comment-page-1/#comment-2462</link>
		<dc:creator>gregas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 13:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg and &quot;blog readers&quot;

I&#039;ve got the GJ 436_b in transit last 17th...
http://www.atalaia.org/gregorio/artigo.php?id=12

Joao
aka Gregas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg and &#8220;blog readers&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got the GJ 436_b in transit last 17th&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.atalaia.org/gregorio/artigo.php?id=12" rel="nofollow">http://www.atalaia.org/gregorio/artigo.php?id=12</a></p>
<p>Joao<br />
aka Gregas</p>
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		<title>By: Eric F Diaz</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/05/16/scooped/comment-page-1/#comment-2460</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric F Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 12:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg,

I agree with you, Greg, that there must be a perturbing body responsible for the .16 eccentricity of GJ 436b, especially considering that this planet has been around for a very long time. But, I think I can safely say at this point, that after the fits that some of my colleagues and I have done for this system, the data for perturbing body responsible for the .16 eccentricity of GJ 436b just isn&#039;t in the directory for this system. Marcy et al need to go back to Keck and collect more RV data for this system. Maybe then we can come up with a proper characterization of this system that would account for the eccentricity of GJ 436b. At least, that is my assessment at this time.

Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg,</p>
<p>I agree with you, Greg, that there must be a perturbing body responsible for the .16 eccentricity of GJ 436b, especially considering that this planet has been around for a very long time. But, I think I can safely say at this point, that after the fits that some of my colleagues and I have done for this system, the data for perturbing body responsible for the .16 eccentricity of GJ 436b just isn&#8217;t in the directory for this system. Marcy et al need to go back to Keck and collect more RV data for this system. Maybe then we can come up with a proper characterization of this system that would account for the eccentricity of GJ 436b. At least, that is my assessment at this time.</p>
<p>Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Curious Cat Science and Engineering Blog &#187; Hot Ice Planet</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/05/16/scooped/comment-page-1/#comment-2444</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious Cat Science and Engineering Blog &#187; Hot Ice Planet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 11:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scooped!: The planet has a mass of 23 Earth-masses and an orbital period of 2.64385 days. It orbits a red dwarf star 33 light years away. The temperature on the planet is somewhere in the oven-cleaning neighborhood of 600K (327K, 620F). No habitability news stories on CNN for this fine fellow. The transit depth is a healthy 0.6%, which implies that the the planetâ€™s radius is ~25,000 km. Thatâ€™s four times that of the Earth, and essentially identical to the 24,764 km radius of Neptune. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Scooped!: The planet has a mass of 23 Earth-masses and an orbital period of 2.64385 days. It orbits a red dwarf star 33 light years away. The temperature on the planet is somewhere in the oven-cleaning neighborhood of 600K (327K, 620F). No habitability news stories on CNN for this fine fellow. The transit depth is a healthy 0.6%, which implies that the the planetâ€™s radius is ~25,000 km. Thatâ€™s four times that of the Earth, and essentially identical to the 24,764 km radius of Neptune. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; Astrosphere for May 16, 2007 &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/05/16/scooped/comment-page-1/#comment-2439</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; Astrosphere for May 16, 2007 &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 18:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of the most important extrasolar planetary discoveries of the year was announced yesterday - a new Neptune-sized planet. Since there wasn&#8217;t an official press release, the news has been gathering slowly. A few bloggers have already jumped on the story and have some analysis. systemic, and Centauri Dreams both have great articles. I&#8217;ll get mine done in a few hours. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One of the most important extrasolar planetary discoveries of the year was announced yesterday &#8211; a new Neptune-sized planet. Since there wasn&#8217;t an official press release, the news has been gathering slowly. A few bloggers have already jumped on the story and have some analysis. systemic, and Centauri Dreams both have great articles. I&#8217;ll get mine done in a few hours. [...]</p>
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