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	<title>Comments on: Gl 581 &#8212; The Movie</title>
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		<title>By: graywyvern</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/04/26/gl-581-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-2269</link>
		<dc:creator>graywyvern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 18:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>taking a cue from the &quot;one earth mass&quot; hydrosphere, i calculate that the whole planet will be covered with an ocean around 622 miles deep (given a total 5.03 earth masses).

seems like this world would be rather oblate, with all that tidal force pulling on it.

love the simulation. i&#039;m starting to think of this world as a place, now. i call it &quot;Metaluna&quot;.

m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taking a cue from the &#8220;one earth mass&#8221; hydrosphere, i calculate that the whole planet will be covered with an ocean around 622 miles deep (given a total 5.03 earth masses).</p>
<p>seems like this world would be rather oblate, with all that tidal force pulling on it.</p>
<p>love the simulation. i&#8217;m starting to think of this world as a place, now. i call it &#8220;Metaluna&#8221;.</p>
<p>m.</p>
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		<title>By: Centauri Dreams &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gerald Nordley: Doubts on Gliese 581 c</title>
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		<dc:creator>Centauri Dreams &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gerald Nordley: Doubts on Gliese 581 c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 18:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nordley&#8217;s thoughts come at a time when Greg Laughlin (UC-Santa Cruz) has pegged the odds on Gliese 581 c harboring &#8220;a clement surface or a temperate ocean-atmospheric interface&#8221; at a thousand to one against. Which is not to downplay the significance of the Gliese 581 c discovery, but only to point out that there is a wide gap between the actual facts we have on this planet and the speculation they have provoked. We can learn more through continuing observations &#8212; and we can&#8217;t rule out the possibility of a transit, which would help immensly. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nordley&#8217;s thoughts come at a time when Greg Laughlin (UC-Santa Cruz) has pegged the odds on Gliese 581 c harboring &#8220;a clement surface or a temperate ocean-atmospheric interface&#8221; at a thousand to one against. Which is not to downplay the significance of the Gliese 581 c discovery, but only to point out that there is a wide gap between the actual facts we have on this planet and the speculation they have provoked. We can learn more through continuing observations &#8212; and we can&#8217;t rule out the possibility of a transit, which would help immensly. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Astronomy Down Under - Down Under, Looking Up &#187; Details on Gliese 581 C</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/04/26/gl-581-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-2266</link>
		<dc:creator>Astronomy Down Under - Down Under, Looking Up &#187; Details on Gliese 581 C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 06:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gliese 581 C - The Movie: details on assumptions and a simulation of a possible atmosphere [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ninos</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/04/26/gl-581-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-2261</link>
		<dc:creator>Ninos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a novice, I want to understand how can a model of this planet&#039;s atmosphere be created? What evidence do we have to fit into our models? Have we analyzed direct light reflecting off of this planet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a novice, I want to understand how can a model of this planet&#8217;s atmosphere be created? What evidence do we have to fit into our models? Have we analyzed direct light reflecting off of this planet?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric F Diaz</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/04/26/gl-581-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-2258</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric F Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one enjoyed seeing this animation, regardless of how accurate it may be. It&#039;s nice to see a visualization of something that was previously nothing but parameters, a part of a curve on a RV/JD chart and a reduced ChiÂ² value on my console. It makes it much more tangible and real for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one enjoyed seeing this animation, regardless of how accurate it may be. It&#8217;s nice to see a visualization of something that was previously nothing but parameters, a part of a curve on a RV/JD chart and a reduced ChiÂ² value on my console. It makes it much more tangible and real for me.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/04/26/gl-581-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-2243</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The emission from GL 581 should peak right around the visible/IR boundary. In this particular hydro run, we&#039;re envisioning the planet as having a significant cover of water clouds, which are providing the relatively high albedo for the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The emission from GL 581 should peak right around the visible/IR boundary. In this particular hydro run, we&#8217;re envisioning the planet as having a significant cover of water clouds, which are providing the relatively high albedo for the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: jtwright</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/04/26/gl-581-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-2242</link>
		<dc:creator>jtwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious how you chose the Bond albedo for these simulations.  Would&#039;t a water-rich atmosphere be very dark in the infrared, where most of the radiation from GJ 581 is?  What&#039;s so reflective about this planet in the infrared?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious how you chose the Bond albedo for these simulations.  Would&#8217;t a water-rich atmosphere be very dark in the infrared, where most of the radiation from GJ 581 is?  What&#8217;s so reflective about this planet in the infrared?</p>
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		<title>By: Big News! An "Earth like" Exoplanet Is Out There. &#171; DJ&#8217;ing, Music, Humour, Life</title>
		<link>http://oklo.org/2007/04/26/gl-581-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-2239</link>
		<dc:creator>Big News! An "Earth like" Exoplanet Is Out There. &#171; DJ&#8217;ing, Music, Humour, Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 14:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A simulation of what the atmosphere might look like done by feeding in known values into an atmospheric simulator. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting animation there - doesn&#039;t look much like the Earth&#039;s pattern, though to make a fairer comparison it might be interesting to see what the model outputs for a planet with Earth&#039;s mass and rotation.

I wonder what the flow pattern would look like on Gliese 581 d (which, judging by the scaled habitable zone from Earth system to Gliese 581, I&#039;d say looks much more likely to have reasonable surface temperatures), with an eccentric orbit and (perhaps) 3:2 rotation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting animation there &#8211; doesn&#8217;t look much like the Earth&#8217;s pattern, though to make a fairer comparison it might be interesting to see what the model outputs for a planet with Earth&#8217;s mass and rotation.</p>
<p>I wonder what the flow pattern would look like on Gliese 581 d (which, judging by the scaled habitable zone from Earth system to Gliese 581, I&#8217;d say looks much more likely to have reasonable surface temperatures), with an eccentric orbit and (perhaps) 3:2 rotation.</p>
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